automatic 20% gratuity on all checks at resturants?

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: bestic

There has been a huge push for servers in the resturant business to get an automatic 20% gratuity to every check. Kinda just wanted to know what you think.
Im also doing a study on people who have been servers, bartenders, and food delivery people. If you guys could help me out and do a quick survey for me... itll only take like a minute, it would really help me out. Thank
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Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: bobbielou

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Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: +DrewMG

gratuity should not be mandatory. if that's the case, just remove the whole system and pay them minimum wage.

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Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: bestic

not spam i need some help with a survey! haha

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: bestic

i agree, i think its pretty damn stupid. tips are for people who give you good service, and what happens if a waiter or waitress gives you lousy service?

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: ABCDEFGHIKLMATT

automatic? hell no, if i get bad service, i should be able to tip accordingly.

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: bestic

what about for delivery people? they have to pay for their gas most of the time

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: bobbielou

then they're suckers for having a crappy job.

A server has to be really really crappy for me not to give them a good tip. Mandatory tips are dumbuh

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Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: bestic

there are alot of people who just dont give tips no matter what service you give them

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: Webb

when i delivered for kfc they paid my gas and then some.

yeah i got bored. i realized it bended back pretty far, but it was too hard. then i gave it a few seconds and thought about a bear attack or some shit, and then i pushed it behind my balls and i put it in my butt. i can get about 1/4 inch into there
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Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: Webb

i took your survey btw

yeah i got bored. i realized it bended back pretty far, but it was too hard. then i gave it a few seconds and thought about a bear attack or some shit, and then i pushed it behind my balls and i put it in my butt. i can get about 1/4 inch into there
-midnight vulture

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: WatercolorStain

I agree with Drew on this. Gratuity is there to express appreciation for good service.

Besides, 15% is standard service. 20% is for better service.

This is from the vantage point of someone who never worked for tips.

You can change the music, if you want. Hatebreed's not for everybody.

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: Webb

from someone who has worked for tips i usually double the tax and then add some to that.

im not good with percentages so that's how i do it.

yeah i got bored. i realized it bended back pretty far, but it was too hard. then i gave it a few seconds and thought about a bear attack or some shit, and then i pushed it behind my balls and i put it in my butt. i can get about 1/4 inch into there
-midnight vulture

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: bobbielou

i believe these days 20% is standard.

I'm still weirded out that KFC delivers. Though, I dont know why.

I would take your survey but I have been lucky enough to never have to serve or deliver.

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Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: Webb

i don't know if they do any more.

a few stores did when i worked for them but they've stopped a whle ago.

yeah i got bored. i realized it bended back pretty far, but it was too hard. then i gave it a few seconds and thought about a bear attack or some shit, and then i pushed it behind my balls and i put it in my butt. i can get about 1/4 inch into there
-midnight vulture

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: WatercolorStain

they have to pay for their gas most of the time

I find that to be the exception, not the rule.

there are alot of people who just dont give tips no matter what service you give them

That's true, too, but since the tipping system is designed so that your employer has to bring you up to par with minimum wage if you're lacking, I can't say I'm feeling a lot of sympathy.

I worked a minimum wage job once without tips. I think a few times, customers offered to buy me a drink, because the AC was usually broken and I was usually running around non-stop. So, again, not a lot of sympathy here.

You can change the music, if you want. Hatebreed's not for everybody.

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: lukegeeknerd

I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.

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Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: Webb

You're a horrible cheapskate.

yeah i got bored. i realized it bended back pretty far, but it was too hard. then i gave it a few seconds and thought about a bear attack or some shit, and then i pushed it behind my balls and i put it in my butt. i can get about 1/4 inch into there
-midnight vulture

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: Strange Weather

from someone who has worked for tips i usually double the tax and then add some to that.

Yeah, but you can't do that in all states cause taxes differ and what not.

Tax here is 8.whatever% so doubling is also what I usually do.

Also, I was going to make a Mr. Pink reference but now I can't.

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: Webb

Tax here is 8 too. But just doubling it doesn't seem like enough for me so I'll add some to that.

yeah i got bored. i realized it bended back pretty far, but it was too hard. then i gave it a few seconds and thought about a bear attack or some shit, and then i pushed it behind my balls and i put it in my butt. i can get about 1/4 inch into there
-midnight vulture

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: lukegeeknerd

Yeah, thanks for recognizing the quote SW. It fit in perfectly in this situation. Webb just thinks I'm an asshole.

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Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: WatercolorStain

I was curious as to the standard now. Wikipedia has an extensive page on it. The States listing says, "While opinions vary, Fodor's suggests that tipping wait staff 15% of the bill (before tax) is considered standard, or up to 20% at more expensive establishments."

I didn't follow the link to see who Fodor is.

You can change the music, if you want. Hatebreed's not for everybody.

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: Webb

Sorry, Luke. I didn't catch that that was a quote since there weren't ANY FUCKING QUOTATION MARKS YOU MISERABLE QUEER

yeah i got bored. i realized it bended back pretty far, but it was too hard. then i gave it a few seconds and thought about a bear attack or some shit, and then i pushed it behind my balls and i put it in my butt. i can get about 1/4 inch into there
-midnight vulture

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: WatercolorStain

Miserable queer ilat

You can change the music, if you want. Hatebreed's not for everybody.

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: +DrewMG

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im david bowie

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: WatercolorStain

I have to reopen my email to see what that means again.

You can change the music, if you want. Hatebreed's not for everybody.

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: WatercolorStain

Oh, yeah.

Now ilat

You can change the music, if you want. Hatebreed's not for everybody.

Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: +88 Kickin Keys

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Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: bobbielou

i still dont know.

but that's okay

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Nov 20th 2007 (5 years ago)

Posted by: blackteeshirt

While we're on the subject, I'd like to see how you guys feel about tipping to go orders. I usually throw them a buck or two for a $7 - $10 check. I don't really think it's a big deal, but really, does someone deserve a tip because they're handing you your food? Why not start tipping fast food employees? To reiterate, I almost always do (unless they took forever and didn't have an excuse, or were rude, or both), but it still seems kind of strange.

That being said, we do get tips at Starbucks, and it's almost the same thing as to go services, however the difference is we are preparing and serving the product: we make the drinks and sometimes warm the pastries (not in my store though!), and the vast majority of Starbucks employees I've seen do go that extra mile to provide "Legendary Service" to customers, so throwing the change from your order in the bucket is all we really ask. Most of our regulars tip us at least a buck every time they're in the store, and some of them come two to three times per day, so that makes up for the guys who get a $1.98 Grande drip and pocket the two pennies (which of course they are entitled to do, it's just shitty).